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Passenger-Rated Stock List



LCDR 3360 and 3188 - Richard Salmon - 18 June 2016 We have a large and diverse collection of rolling stock on the Bluebell Railway, built up over the years since we started in 1960. These include gems such as the Metropolitan Railway stock, which is the only close-coupled standard-gauge train in the country. We have five Pullman cars, from the 1920s and '50s, an unrivalled collection of old SECR, LSWR and Southern Railway carriages, plus the unusual and unique 1913 built LNWR Observation Car and the venerable Great Northern Railway Directors' Saloon.

Right: Restored London, Chatham & Dover Railway carriages Nos.3360 of 1889 and 3188 of 1897, seen on the evening of 3188's re-launch into service, 18 June 2016. The carriage bodies had been used as bungalows from 1925 and 1935, and were rescued by the Bluebell in 2003 and 2005. They both now run on adapted SR van underframes. No.3360 was adapted to carry passengers in wheelchairs thanks to a "People's Millions" grant from the Big Lottery Fund.

Two old London Brighton & South Coast Railway carriages have been restored to traffic after 68 and 80 years out of use, and another two are currently being restored. All four were recovered after more than half a century as dwellings, and have been mounted on suitably modified underframes.

Passenger rated stock is that which could be included in passenger trains. It includes luggage vans, carriage trucks, horse boxes, perishable produce vans and milk tankers.

The list shows vehicle number, type, (building date), and alternative numbers carried at various times in the vehicle's history. Links from coach numbers are to photographs of each vehicle.

Other documents provide an Introduction to the Carriages, a Review of the Carriage Fleet, and a Stock List of our Wagons.


Pre-Grouping - SR Maunsell - SR Bulleid - Pullman & CIWL - LMS - BR - EMU - Vans
Operational carriage stock - Carriages under overhaul - Carriages formerly based on the Bluebell

 Pre-Grouping Carriages

     London Brighton & South Coast Railway (LBSCR)
Craven-era carriages:
354-compt Second (c1856) www page [dismantled body only]
94Full Brake (c1858) www page [body and underframe]
204Quadrant-windowed 3-compt First (c1866) (Original No. Unknown, 204 as 2nd) www page [dismantled body only]
221Brake 2nd/3rd (1852 or 1859) (Original No. Unknown, 221 as Bk.3rd) www page [will be rebuilt after fire]

Stroudley Carriages:
3284w Third (1890) www page [Under Restoration]
661First (1880) (originally 6w, now 4w) (Brake 2nd 262(1909), Brake 3rd 1648) www page [Operational] (at one time erroniously thought to have been numbered 667)
6764w Brake Third (1875) www page [body only]
9494w Brake Third (1881) www page [Under Restoration]
9924w Third (1880) www page [body only]

20th Century LBSCR carriages:
60Directors' Saloon (1913) www page
7598First (1903) (LBSCR 142) www page [Operational]

     London Chatham & Dover Railway (LCDR)
486-wheel Brake 2nd (1894) (Brake 3rd 2781, SR 3630 (1927)) www page
1144-wheel Brake 3rd (1889) (Brake 2nd 106, Brake 3rd 114 (1891), 548 (1899), 3068 (1903)) www page [Operational]
318828' 3rd (1897) (LCDR 668, SECR 3188 (1907), Brake 3rd, SR 3652 (1926)) www page [Operational]
33604-wheel semi-saloon (1889) (built as Brake 2nd 51, Brake 3rd 285 (1897), SECR 3360 (1901)) www page [Operational]

     South Eastern Railway (SER)
33Drawing Room Car (1891) - Later Pullman Car "Constance" www page [body in two sections]
1721st Saloon (1898) (later brake 1st) (SR 7874) www page [body only]
1050Composite (later all 3rd) (1880's, reconstructed by SR in 1924) (SER 568 and 792, SECR 1440, SR 5546) www page

     South Eastern & Chatham Railway (SECR)
950Birdcage 2nd Saloon Brake (later 3rd) (1907) (3582) www page [Not Bluebell stock; in private ownership]
971"100 seater" 3rd (1923) (1434) www page [Withdrawn pending overhaul]
1061Birdcage 3rd Brake (originally 2nd/3rd composite) (1909) (3334) www page
1098"100 seater" 3rd (1922) (1416) www page [Operational]
1170Birdcage 3rd Brake (1912) (3410) www page
1440Composite (see 1050 under SER Carriages above) - probably for use as centre coach for Birdcage trio set
3363Birdcage Lavatory 3rd Brake (originally 2nd/3rd composite) (1910) (SECR 1084, DS22) www page [Operational]

     London & South Western Railway (LSWR)
2534' family saloon (1885) (SR 0905 and 7937) www page
320Lavatory 3rd (1900, rebuilt and lengthened in 1935) (1228, 288) www page
494Corridor 3rd (1911) (673) www page
1520Lavatory Brake 3rd (1910) (2975) www page [Operational]

     Metropolitan Railway
368Composite (Built by Ashbury, 1898) (515, 9702) www page [Operational]
387Brake 3rd (Built by Ashbury, 1898) (512, 2761) www page [Operational]
394Full 3rd (Built by Ashbury, 1900) (518, 6702) www page [Operational]
412Composite (Built by Cravens, 1900) (516, 9705) www page [Operational]

     Great Northern Railway (GNR)
43909Directors' Saloon (1897) (706, 706E, 942090) www page [Operational]

     London & North Western Railway (LNWR)
1503Observation Car (1913) (LMS 5316, 15843) www page [Operational]


 Southern Railway Maunsell Carriages (1923-39)

     (all are Restriction 4 (i.e. 9ft wide), unless stated otherwise)
1309TOOpen Third (1935) www page [Operational]
1336TO"Drop-Light" Open Third (1933) www page [Operational]
1365TObuilt 1927: Dining Third 7866, redesignated Open Third 1365, 1930, Ambulance 6802 in 1944 and Compo Diner 7841 in 1947 www page
2356TKCorridor Third (Restriction 1, i.e. 8ft 6in wide) (1931) www page
3687BTKCorridor Brake Third www page (Restriction 0, i.e. 8ft wide for Hastings line) (1931) [Under Restoration]
3724BTKCorridor Brake Third (1930) www page
4441UCBUnclassed Brake (could be used for 1st, 2nd or 3rd class as required) (Restriction 1) (1933) www page
4444UCBUnclassed Brake (Restriction 1) (1933) www page
4922TPOTravelling Post Office (1939) www page
5644CKCorridor Composite (1930) www page
6575BCKCorridor Composite Brake (1929) www page
6686BCKCorridor Composite Brake (1935) www page [Operational]
7864KBKitchen Buffet (1932, rebuilt 1947) www page

 Southern Railway designed Bulleid Carriages (1945-52)

1456TOOpen Third (1947) www page [On long term loan to Mid Hants Railway]
1464TOOpen Third (1950) www page [Operational]
1481TOOpen Third (1950) www page
1482TOOpen Third (1950) www page [Operational]
2515SOBTSemi-Open Brake Third (1951) www page
2526SOBTSemi-Open Brake Third (1951) www page [Operational]
4227SOBTSemi-Open Brake Third with Coupé (i.e. half) compartment (1948) www page
4279SOBTSemi-Open Brake Third (1949) www page
5768CKCorridor Composite (1947) www page [Undergoing overhaul]

 Pullman and Compagnie Internationale de Wagons-Lits

89"Constance"Pullman Kitchen 1st - see South Eastern Railway Car 33 above
157"Car No.54"Pullman Brake 3rd (1923) www page
175"Fingall"Pullman Kitchen 1st (1924) www page [Operational]
219"Christine"Pullman 3rd (formerly "Car No.64") (1928) www page [Operational]
229"Lilian"Pullman 3rd (formerly "Car No.76") (1928) www page
307"Carina"Pullman Kitchen 1st (1951) www page
3801CWILNight Ferry Wagons-Lits (1939) www page [used as volunteer sleeping accommodation]

 London Midland & Scottish Railway Carriages

     (These three carriages are used for overnight sleeping accommodation for volunteers)
      - see also the LMS BGZ
398LMS/BR 1st Sleeper (1952) www page [at Sheffield Park]
603LMS/BR 3rd Sleeper (1951) www page [at Horsted Keynes]
623LMS/BR 3rd Sleeper (1952) www page [at Horsted Keynes]

 British Railways Standard Steam Stock (Mk.I)

1674RBRRestaurant-Buffet (Refurbished) (1961) www page [Operational]
1818RMBRestaurant Miniature Buffet (1960) www page [Operational]
1838RMBRestaurant Miniature Buffet (1959) www page [Operational]
3064FOOpen First (1955) www page [Operational]
4754SOOpen Second (64 seats) (1957) (Bicester Military Railway WGP 8806) www page [Under overhaul]
4824SOOpen Second (48 seats) (1959) www page [Operational]
4941Saloon(formerly SO) (1962) www page [Operational, Converted to multi-use saloon with wheelchair lifts]
4957SOOpen Second (64 seats) (1962) www page [Operational]
5034Saloon(formerly SO, then TCL 99165) (1962) www page [Operational, Converted to multi-use saloon with wheelchair lifts]
16012CKCorridor Composite (1957) (7012, S16012) www page [Operational]
16210CKCorridor Composite (1961) (7210) www page [Operational]
21246BCKBrake Composite (1962) www page [Under overhaul]
21271BCKBrake Composite (1964) (ADB977109) www page
25728SKCorridor 2nd (1961) (18728) www page [Operational]
25769SKCorridor 2nd (1961) (18769) www page [Operational]
34556BSKBrake Corridor 3rd (later 2nd) (1955) www page [Operational]
35207BSKBrake Corridor 2nd (1958) www page [Operational]

     Non-traffic Mk.I Vehicles:
88"Service Car No.2" Staff Sleeping Coach (SLC M2442) (1961) www page
25871Carriage Shop, (TCL 99161) Ex-SK (1962) www page
TCL 99166Staff Dormitory, Ex-SK 25776 (1961) www page
BDC 977166Visitor facilities, East Grinstead Ex-BSK 35419, later Staff and Generator Coach (1963)

      BR Electric Multiple Unit Vehicles:
     See also the four Metropolitan Railway carriages, above, which are one-time emu vehicles.
76262, 62236, 70797 & 76263: 4 Vep unit 3417 "Gordon Pettitt" (1967) (7717, 3017) www page [In care of The Southern Electric Traction Group]


 Passenger Rated Vans

 Pre-Grouping passenger-rated Vans

1LCDRHorse Box (1882) (1002, SECR 184) www page [May be rebuilt after loss in fire]
153SECRPassenger Luggage Van (PLV) (1922) (1994, DS70031) www page [Potentially operational]
270LBSCRMilk/Fruit Van (1908) (2178, 1525S) www page [Restored but not yet operational]
719SECRBirdcage Brake Van (1905) (616, 1601S) www page
5498LSWRVentilated Luggage Van (1920) (1584, DS1686) www page

 Southern Railway Vans and other passenger rated stock

404Van C (BY) (4-wheel Guard's Brake Van) (1937) www page [Under Overhaul]
419Van C (BY) (1937) (ADB 975548) www page
1184PLV (4-wheel Passenger Luggage Van, later "PMV") (1935) www page
1788PLV (1942) www page
2186PLV (1934) www page
2276Van U (4 wheel Covered Carriage Truck, CCT) (1929) www page
2462GBL (Gangwayed Bogie Luggage van) (body 1931, u/f 1910) www page [Potentially operational]
25314-w CCT (1955) www page [Under overhaul]
44306-wheel glass-lined Milk Tank (1933) www page [Potentially operational]
4601Bogie Scenery Van (modified for carrying circus elephants) (1949) www page [Children's Play Carriage]
Further SR vans are also on site, and the bodies of some have already been removed.
These are providing underframes for the restoration of 19th century 4-wheeled carriages.

 LMS & BR passenger-rated Vans

32975LMSBGZ (6-wheel Gangwayed Guard's Brake, Stove R) (1938) www page [Operational, Pullman livery]
87720BR12-Ton INSUL-FISH Insulated Fish Van (1960) (083402) www page
6334BRBG - HST Barrier Vehicle (ex Gangwayed Full Brake 81478/92128) (1957) www page
86722BRbogie GUV - (Post Office NJV 93722) (1959) www page
94181BRCCT (1959) www page

Coaching stock nominally available for service

* indicates carriages which will require major overhaul in next few years.

LBSCR: 661, 7598;                       LCDR: 114, 3188, 3360; 
GNR: Directors' Saloon (LNER 43909)     
SECR: 1098, 3363;                       LNWR: Observation Car 1503;
LSWR: 1520;                             LMS: Stove R 32975; 
Pullmans: 175 "Fingall", 219 Car No.64 (Christine)
SR Maunsell: 1309*, 1336, 6686, Van'C' 404*, Milk Tanker 4430;
SR Bulleid: 1464, 1482, 2526
BR: 1674, 1838, 3064, 4824, 4941, 4957*, 5034, 16012, 16210, 25728, 25769, 34556, 35207
Carriages undergoing major overhaul
LBSCR 949, 328;               Pullman 157 "Car 54";
SR Maunsell 3687;             SR Bulleid 5768, Vans 404, 2531;
BR 4754, 21246

LBSCR Van 270
Following restoration of its bodywork, and the replacement of its wheelsets, a redesign of its brake gear has been necessary, and the work on the brake gear is now underway to make the van operational.

Metropolitan Railway carriages
These are temporarily out of service, requiring renewal of some door locks, the replacement of four vacuum cylinders, and a replacement dynamo on one coach.



The Carriage Exhibition at Horsted Keynes is well worth a visit, and includes a viewing gallery in the carriage works, at the south end of platform 5. Donations collected are now being put towards the eventual overhaul of the SR Maunsell Restaurant car No.7864, and the provision of more urgently needed overhead cover for our carriage stock.

On Platform 1 at Horsted Keynes, the Carriage Shop sells various items, including a large range of books, to raise funds for carriage restoration.

Much of the carriage restoration done at Horsted Keynes is undertaken by volunteers. As the above lists show, there is a long line of carriages awaiting our attention. Why not come and join us; drop in for a look around the shed and see what we do! There is all sorts of work available, skilled and unskilled. Learn new skills, or brush up on those you've forgotten. There are people around every day. Join the Carriage Restorers and be part of an award winning department! 1309, Pullman 'Bertha' (no longer on the Bluebell) and the completed Metropolitan Set have been overall winners of the Heritage Railway Association (HRA) C&W competition, 3363, 32975 and 7598 have won HRA "Coach of the year" awards, and 387, 114, 661, 7598 and 1520 have received other prestigious prizes and awards.


Carriages and Vans which are no longer at the Bluebell Railway:

Caledonian Railway: TK 3339
LNWR: Semi-Royal Saloon 806
LMS: TK 1272
Southern Railway: 4 Cor DMBT 11201, Van C (BY) 442, Van C (BY) 653
Pullman Cars: 278 6 Pul Kitchen Composite "Bertha", 282 "Brighton Belle" Kitchen 1st "Doris", 311 Met-Cam Kitchen 1st "Eagle"
British Railways: Mk.I RKB 1566 - photo, Mk.I RU(B) 1987, Mk.I FO 3042, Mk.I FO 3116, Mk.I TSO 4921, Mk.2c FK 13540, Mk.I CK 16263, Mk.I SK 18752, Mk.I BCK 21238, Mk.I SK 24458, Mk.I BSK 35448, the "New Century Lounge" 25778, Mk.I CL 43010, Mk.I BS 43172, Mk.I SLO 48015, "Monster" CCT W600W
Ex-Travelling College stock immediately sold-on: SK 25795, SK 25853, SK 25856, SK 25994

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