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Great Western Railway "Toad"
20 Ton Goods Brake Van No. 17908 (built in 1913)

This vehicle is being advertised FOR SALE.
Deemed too "off region" for the collection and offered
for disposal into further preservation only.
The brake van will not be scrapped.

To register an interest in its purchase, which will probably be by tender due to
the significant interest generated, please contact Richard Salmon.

GWR Toad brake van 17908 - Nigel Longdon - 27 August 2022

GWR 17908 - "Toad" brake van (Nigel Longdon, August 2022)

The Great Western Railway first produced what was to become their iconic standard goods brake van early in the 20th. century. They retained the style, with refinements, up to and into nationalisation. The design gives quite a commodious van with a large heated cabin and a covered veranda at one end. A disadvantage from the guard's point of view was having to operate the handbrake and sanding gear in this area, away from the heated interior!

Built to GWR Diagram AA13 (we understand in 1913 and as one of 50 under Lot 757), 17908 is one of 275 to this design built between 1913 and 1918 at Swindon. It is a 20 Ton goods brake van with handbrake only and known by the telegraphic code "Toad". This van has the cabin side timbered to floor level. In later vans, the planking below waistline was replaced by steel sheet.

GWR practice was to allocate brake vans to certain runs, and this one spent much time based at Cardiff. Traces of GW-style "Cardiff" lettering were discovered under layers of paint, while the BR paintwork showed the van as "Cardiff R.U.", indicating a regular working to Salisbury. The presence of SR (in addition to GW) positioned lamp irons confirms its use at one time on through workings.

W17908 was withdrawn from BR service in December 1958 and was subsequently sold to the Oxfordshire Ironstone Company for internal use at their quarry near Banbury, where it became their "No.6". Its principal role here was to carry quarry workers from the booking on point by the engine shed to their place of work some distance away.

GWR Toad brake van 17908 - Richard Salmon
The van was sold to the Southern Locomotive Preservation Company in 1967 and was delivered by rail to Liss, on the Longmoor Military Railway. It came to Bluebell with the rest of the SLP stock (including USA tank 30064 and Maunsell brake composite 6686), arriving on 1 October 1971, and later passing into Bluebell ownership.

Since its arrival, 17908 has been used by Civil Engineering staff. It is externally restored to GWR condition and has been serviceable, although it normally can be seen at Horsted Keynes, and is seen there in the photo on the right from the 1990s.


Recommended reading:

A history of GWR Goods Wagons, by Messrs. Atkins, Beard, Hyde and Tourret, published by David and Charles.
Volume 1 - (1975), ISBN 0 7153 6532 0
Volume 2 - (1976), ISBN 0 7153 72904

These books are out of print but used copies may be available from the Carriage Shop at Horsted Keynes which is open most weekends.
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